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RearrangedReality

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on: October 15, 2010, 03:31:42 PM
If you can't read Xhosa don't even bother with this.

http://uir.unisa.ac.za/dspace/bitstream/10500/2627/1/dissertation_gcingca_ndolo_%20z.pdf

I haven't read this yet but I thought post it here so long.

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Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 07:45:41 PM
Probabaly won't read this until November but, ndibamba ngazibini anyway bawo.
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Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 10:13:07 AM
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Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 10:24:01 AM
There needs to be a xhosa-zulu dictionary.
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Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 10:42:10 AM
Will give this a read. Arregato gosaimas!!!!!!
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Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 02:29:37 PM
Yiman...

Sizoyalwa kwi internet ngok'?

Will check it out just out of curiosity...Kodwa ke kuzofuneka ndazi uba ngubani umbhali, elithatha phi ugunya lokuxelela isizwe ngendlela emaliziphathe ngayo...
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Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 02:39:28 PM
hay suka kule ndawo sendiyifundile akhonto intsha okanye ebendingayazi ayithethayo lo sisi!!

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Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 02:39:46 PM
Quote from: Touareg on October 18, 2010, 02:29:37 PM
Yiman...

Sizoyalwa kwi internet ngok'?

Will check it out just out of curiosity...Kodwa ke kuzofuneka ndazi uba ngubani umbhali, elithatha phi ugunya lokuxelela isizwe ngendlela emaliziphathe ngayo...

funda kuqala, mhlawumbhi ayibhalwanga ngalendle ucinga ukuba ibhalwe ngoya. mhlawumbhi akathi ziphathe ngahlobo luthile kodwa uthi yindlela ekwakuqhutywa okanye ekusaqhutywa ngayo ngabase landela loondlela ngokudibene nokuziphatha. ndiyithembha ukuba ndiyavakala.

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Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: Rev Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr. on October 18, 2010, 02:39:28 PM
hay suka kule ndawo sendiyifundile akhonto intsha okanye ebendingayazi ayithethayo lo sisi!!

loonto intsha okanye indala ifumaneke kweziphi incwadi?


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Reply #9 on: October 18, 2010, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: RearrangedReality on October 18, 2010, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: Rev Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr. on October 18, 2010, 02:39:28 PM
hay suka kule ndawo sendiyifundile akhonto intsha okanye ebendingayazi ayithethayo lo sisi!!

loonto intsha okanye indala ifumaneke kweziphi incwadi?

awuzukufumana ncwadi enye ethetha nagzo zonke ezi zinto, kodwa ke ungafunda iincwadi ezinjenge Ngqumbo Yeminyanya. Kwaye ezinye izinto azibhalwanga koko umntu uthi azazi ngokubuza nangokujonga indlela ekwenziwa ngayo izinto kwaye ndiqinisekile ukuba yilento yenziwe ngumbhali weliphepha.

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Reply #10 on: October 18, 2010, 03:03:16 PM
Nyani Chap!
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Reply #11 on: October 18, 2010, 03:25:01 PM
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Reply #12 on: October 18, 2010, 03:25:18 PM
Quote from: Rev Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr. on October 18, 2010, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: RearrangedReality on October 18, 2010, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: Rev Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr. on October 18, 2010, 02:39:28 PM
hay suka kule ndawo sendiyifundile akhonto intsha okanye ebendingayazi ayithethayo lo sisi!!

loonto intsha okanye indala ifumaneke kweziphi incwadi?

awuzukufumana ncwadi enye ethetha nagzo zonke ezi zinto, kodwa ke ungafunda iincwadi ezinjenge Ngqumbo Yeminyanya. Kwaye ezinye izinto azibhalwanga koko umntu uthi azazi ngokubuza nangokujonga indlela ekwenziwa ngayo izinto kwaye ndiqinisekile ukuba yilento yenziwe ngumbhali weliphepha.

so what wrong with putting it on paper then for those who dont have access to such information. your logic here puzzles me. what are you really saying so i cant understand?

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Reply #13 on: October 18, 2010, 04:11:59 PM
Quote from: RearrangedReality on October 18, 2010, 03:25:18 PM
Quote from: Rev Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr. on October 18, 2010, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: RearrangedReality on October 18, 2010, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: Rev Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr. on October 18, 2010, 02:39:28 PM
hay suka kule ndawo sendiyifundile akhonto intsha okanye ebendingayazi ayithethayo lo sisi!!

loonto intsha okanye indala ifumaneke kweziphi incwadi?

awuzukufumana ncwadi enye ethetha nagzo zonke ezi zinto, kodwa ke ungafunda iincwadi ezinjenge Ngqumbo Yeminyanya. Kwaye ezinye izinto azibhalwanga koko umntu uthi azazi ngokubuza nangokujonga indlela ekwenziwa ngayo izinto kwaye ndiqinisekile ukuba yilento yenziwe ngumbhali weliphepha.

so what wrong with putting it on paper then for those who dont have access to such information. your logic here puzzles me. what are you really saying so i cant understand?



ey man im not looking for an argument, you asked me a question and i responded.... all im saying is that there is nothing new from what she wrote,  she just talks about the significance of various Xhosa traditions, she does not dig deeper i.e how these traditions have evolved over the years etc etc and i never said she should not have put it on paper!! 

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Reply #14 on: October 19, 2010, 10:05:03 AM
Maybe this book right here has what you are asking for.


I'm about to drop all books that im reading currently to read this one.

Diviners and Prophets among the Xhosa (1593-1856): A Study in Xhosa Cultural History

http://books.google.co.za/books?id=0xZsAtj0QssC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Diviners+and+Prophets+among+the+Xhosa+(1593-1856):+A+Study+in+Xhosa+Cultural+History&source=bl&ots=wGSqWr4jO_&sig=ca1JtwASeS-sHl9c0AbZjT94FNs&hl=en&ei=mk29TLGBFZChOrKU9T4&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false


I was gonna buy it online but amazon sells it for $250.  :o
a UCT student hooked me up, she got it from the library there.

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