No separates!

[rob_one]

Let's say you're making a rap tune. Let's say your producer used a single sample, slowed down and manipulated, for the beat. That's it - no drums, no ba**, no extra bits. Just this sample. It's really cool though.

You need to sit the vocals on the beat, which is on a single audio track.

Any tips or thoughts on how to proceed? How does one sit the vocal?

[briCK]

lol@'tune'

[AGMilitia]

Which DAW are you using?

[rob_one]

@ Brick - I dig my rap tunes, doggie.

@ Militia - Cubase, although I have Logic too. Why, what are you thinking?

[briCK]

@ Brick - I dig my rap tunes, doggie.

@ Militia - Cubase, although I have Logic too. Why, what are you thinking?

Word? Oh Really? No diggidy!

[The CHEF]

What do you mean sit? Do you mean having to record again or use vocals that have been already recorded?

In both cases, use Sony ACID 7. time stretch there is perfect or use FL if you need to get them mixed in a jiffy. The only thing with FL though is making sure that you blend the two perfect and your mixes should come out from being rewired if you need perfection. The process is longer in both ways...

[rob_one]

What do you mean sit? Do you mean having to record again or use vocals that have been already recorded?

In both cases, use Sony ACID 7. time stretch there is perfect or use FL if you need to get them mixed in a jiffy. The only thing with FL though is making sure that you blend the two perfect and your mixes should come out from being rewired if you need perfection. The process is longer in both ways...

Er...good advice, but not quite what I was looking for!

I have recorded vocals, and a beat. The beat is one mixed wav file - no separate drums, samples or anything else. I'm trying to sit the vocals in the beat, so it sounds as if it's mixed. Timing isn't a problem.

I'm using Cubase.

[biz-ark-human]

According to what I know, sitting vocals in the mix can best be done with eq. Use different types of it, not just one, and play around with em until you get something that you can be satisfied with.

I know the feeling, mixing without separates is a biatch!

[rob_one]

According to what I know, sitting vocals in the mix can best be done with eq. Use different types of it, not just one, and play around with em until you get something that you can be satisfied with.

I know the feeling, mixing without separates is a biatch!

Can you clarify? Do you mean auditioning different EQs to get the correct sound? Or do you mean layering them as insert effects?

I tend to use the EQ on Izotope Ozone, as I find it really easy to work with and pretty transparent.

[The CHEF]

What do you mean sit? Do you mean having to record again or use vocals that have been already recorded?

In both cases, use Sony ACID 7. time stretch there is perfect or use FL if you need to get them mixed in a jiffy. The only thing with FL though is making sure that you blend the two perfect and your mixes should come out from being rewired if you need perfection. The process is longer in both ways...

Er...good advice, but not quite what I was looking for!

I have recorded vocals, and a beat. The beat is one mixed wav file - no separate drums, samples or anything else. I'm trying to sit the vocals in the beat, so it sounds as if it's mixed. Timing isn't a problem.

I'm using Cubase.

In that case well, it will be advisable if you use less compression/maximizing/colouring of any nature. Since you mentioned you're using Cubase, then use a lot of EQ to suite yo mix and remember to NOT COMPRESS, even if it clips.

[rob_one]

What do you mean sit? Do you mean having to record again or use vocals that have been already recorded?

In both cases, use Sony ACID 7. time stretch there is perfect or use FL if you need to get them mixed in a jiffy. The only thing with FL though is making sure that you blend the two perfect and your mixes should come out from being rewired if you need perfection. The process is longer in both ways...

Er...good advice, but not quite what I was looking for!

I have recorded vocals, and a beat. The beat is one mixed wav file - no separate drums, samples or anything else. I'm trying to sit the vocals in the beat, so it sounds as if it's mixed. Timing isn't a problem.

I'm using Cubase.

In that case well, it will be advisable if you use less compression/maximizing/colouring of any nature. Since you mentioned you're using Cubase, then use a lot of EQ to suite yo mix and remember to NOT COMPRESS, even if it clips.

I haven't used any compression on the master bus - but because it's going to mastering, not because of anything else. What impact would master compression have on sitting the vocal?

I've compressed individual elements and it sounds pretty good so far!

[biz-ark-human]

Different EQs work differently, so use that rationale when lining em up. Perhaps start with two Waves EQs, then end with the Izotope one in your chain.

Tweak each one differently, see what happens...

[rob_one]

I'll give it a shot - but I'm not sure about that! Seems like a roundabout way of doing things. Thanks though!

[The CHEF]

What do you mean sit? Do you mean having to record again or use vocals that have been already recorded?

In both cases, use Sony ACID 7. time stretch there is perfect or use FL if you need to get them mixed in a jiffy. The only thing with FL though is making sure that you blend the two perfect and your mixes should come out from being rewired if you need perfection. The process is longer in both ways...

Er...good advice, but not quite what I was looking for!

I have recorded vocals, and a beat. The beat is one mixed wav file - no separate drums, samples or anything else. I'm trying to sit the vocals in the beat, so it sounds as if it's mixed. Timing isn't a problem.

I'm using Cubase.

In that case well, it will be advisable if you use less compression/maximizing/colouring of any nature. Since you mentioned you're using Cubase, then use a lot of EQ to suite yo mix and remember to NOT COMPRESS, even if it clips.

I haven't used any compression on the master bus - but because it's going to mastering, not because of anything else. What impact would master compression have on sitting the vocal?

I've compressed individual elements and it sounds pretty good so far!

Master compression always kills off or as I put it, disturbs the pureness of a thumping ba** kick or drum. The sound will be coloured in such a way that even yo hi's wont be crystal.

Pro Tools is best for such jobs, try using the Izotope RTA in Pro Tools 7/8 Le... works like a charm!

- just my take (diff strokes for diff folks)