on the HIV-AIDS thing, it was the DA and the likes of TAC trying to score political points and all mbeki was saying let us find out more about how these things work. do you think the ARV's magic johnson was getting are the same as those being sent to africa. if they are then we should have a lot of cases of people who were able to reverse symptoms of the virus as people have been on ARV's for far too long and the pharmaceutical companies reaping enough profits